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Poster: kochman Date: Nov 4, 2008 2:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: VOTE!

I guarantee, on a test regarding WWII history, I would crush 99% of the people at this site, if not 100%.
The Battle of Britain was certainly not won prior to our support, that is just ridiculous, but if you want to believe that, feel free to. We were supporting the UK from well before the first German bomber dropped a bomb on London.
The British Commonwealth (of about 63%) and the Soviet Union (of about 22%) were the main recipients of this aid, although toward the end of the war more than forty countries obtained aid on the lend-lease...
the Soviet Union received, over the war years, 21,795 planes, 12,056 tanks, 4,158 armored personnel carriers, 7,570 tractor trucks, 8,000 antiaircraft and 5,000 antitank guns, 132,000 machine-guns, 472 million artillery shells, 9,351 transceivers customized to Soviet-made fighter planes, 2.8 million tons of petroleum products, 102 ocean-going dry cargo vessels, 29 tankers, 23 sea tugboats and icebreakers, 433 combat ships and gunboats, as well as mobile bridges, railroad equipment, aircraft radar equipment, and many other items
But, I guess none of that matters, we have to give 100% of the credit to the T-34...

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 4, 2008 3:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: VOTE!

Are you kidding me? Track the time that those items were sent my friend. You think it was 1939? You think it was 1940?

Do you your history homework and get back to me, my friend.

Did Roosevelt get anything to London in the fall of 1939? Did he get anything to Russia of substance prior to Stalingrad?

Where are you reading this garbage?

Quotes, please.

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Poster: kochman Date: Nov 4, 2008 8:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: VOTE!

Obviously it was throughout the war... I thought that went without saying.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 4, 2008 8:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: VOTE!

Sorry, I got a little cranky there...

In the end, sure, we helped, but as I indicate below, there is a strong argument for the brits and the russkies having turned the corner prior to substantive impacts of our efforts.

And, by extension, they could have survived without us...would it have been uglier? Yes, but the Axis was never going to win the battle with the russkies...

Just as we turned the corner in the Pacific within six months with Japan, and it was all downhill (bloody nonetheless) from there...